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	<title>Comments on: Using Flash Player Express Install with FlashObject</title>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-5180</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm closing the comments on this post - if you have questions or comments about ExpressInstall or FlashObject, please post them to the &lt;a href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/flashobject-deconcept.com"&gt;FlashObject mailing list&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m closing the comments on this post - if you have questions or comments about ExpressInstall or FlashObject, please post them to the <a href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/flashobject-deconcept.com">FlashObject mailing list</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4374</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't place the ExpressInstall.as file on the server at all. The Flash IDE uses that file when you compile your swf. Check out the code in the example files that are zipped up with FlashObject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t place the ExpressInstall.as file on the server at all. The Flash IDE uses that file when you compile your swf. Check out the code in the example files that are zipped up with FlashObject.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4373</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so I know this question has been bounced around, but, I still haven't found an answer.  Where do I place the ExpressInstall.as file on my server!?!  My swf file with the required actionscript is located at /fla/nav.swf.  So, does that mean that the ExpressInstall.as file needs to be at /fla/com/deconcept/ExpressInstall.as, or, /fla/ ??? Please help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so I know this question has been bounced around, but, I still haven&#8217;t found an answer.  Where do I place the ExpressInstall.as file on my server!?!  My swf file with the required actionscript is located at /fla/nav.swf.  So, does that mean that the ExpressInstall.as file needs to be at /fla/com/deconcept/ExpressInstall.as, or, /fla/ ??? Please help!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4363</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, I'm just about to release an update to FlashObject and the ExpressInstall scripts... I'll be sure to include that change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, I&#8217;m just about to release an update to FlashObject and the ExpressInstall scripts&#8230; I&#8217;ll be sure to include that change.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Crow</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4362</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 10:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I found a little issue that'll affect anyone using flash on secure (https) page. If you loaded the partent swf via https, you won't be able to load autoUpdater.swf over http. If I could be so bold as to make a suggestion for your excellent ExpressInstall class, it'd be nice if it automatically figured out if it was loaded via SSL, and changed the autoUpdator.swf download path accordingly. I've already made this change on my side, so if you'd like to shoot me an email, I can send it to you.

-Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I found a little issue that&#8217;ll affect anyone using flash on secure (https) page. If you loaded the partent swf via https, you won&#8217;t be able to load autoUpdater.swf over http. If I could be so bold as to make a suggestion for your excellent ExpressInstall class, it&#8217;d be nice if it automatically figured out if it was loaded via SSL, and changed the autoUpdator.swf download path accordingly. I&#8217;ve already made this change on my side, so if you&#8217;d like to shoot me an email, I can send it to you.</p>
<p>-Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4278</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, sorry just realised I posted this in the wrong page :\  
Sorry! and sorry for this second message *slap*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, sorry just realised I posted this in the wrong page :\<br />
Sorry! and sorry for this second message *slap*</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4277</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Easy to serve different content to different browsers.&lt;/strong&gt; 
I worked on a project recently that made extensive use of the wmode=transparent option. Well when you are using IE or Firefox you can use wmode=transparent with the Flash 6 player, but if you are using Apple’s Safari browser, you need Flash player 7 to see the content properly. So in the embeds on the page, we required Safari users to have the Flash 7 player, and everyone else the Flash 6 player. Without Javascript we would have had to force everyone to upgrade to Flash player 7, something we didn’t want to do, even though the Flash 7 player has a pretty high penetration percentage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How do I do this (taget specific browsers)?  I can't seem to find the explination.  I'd like to use a transparent background on a flash movie while supporting as many browsers as possible.  

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Easy to serve different content to different browsers.</strong><br />
I worked on a project recently that made extensive use of the wmode=transparent option. Well when you are using IE or Firefox you can use wmode=transparent with the Flash 6 player, but if you are using Apple’s Safari browser, you need Flash player 7 to see the content properly. So in the embeds on the page, we required Safari users to have the Flash 7 player, and everyone else the Flash 6 player. Without Javascript we would have had to force everyone to upgrade to Flash player 7, something we didn’t want to do, even though the Flash 7 player has a pretty high penetration percentage.</p></blockquote>
<p>How do I do this (taget specific browsers)?  I can&#8217;t seem to find the explination.  I&#8217;d like to use a transparent background on a flash movie while supporting as many browsers as possible.  </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4262</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Geoff. Hrmmm, using a timer is not the way I wanted to go... as you said, its unpredictable and if a method doesnt work 100% of the time, to me its not worth it. I found a better way of "styling" the Express Install in the end by just changing some of the code in flashobject.js. Basically if Express Install needs to run then I force the size of the swf down to exactly 215x138px, center it in a div and write in some html above it. If Express Install doesn't need to run I just have it resize the swf to 100% and all is good. Thanks for the help though and for the great detection script!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Geoff. Hrmmm, using a timer is not the way I wanted to go&#8230; as you said, its unpredictable and if a method doesnt work 100% of the time, to me its not worth it. I found a better way of &#8220;styling&#8221; the Express Install in the end by just changing some of the code in flashobject.js. Basically if Express Install needs to run then I force the size of the swf down to exactly 215&#215;138px, center it in a div and write in some html above it. If Express Install doesn&#8217;t need to run I just have it resize the swf to 100% and all is good. Thanks for the help though and for the great detection script!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4260</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could try setting a timeout that attaches or swaps the depth of your logo to &lt;code&gt;_root.getNextHigestDepth()&lt;/code&gt;, but it would have to wait long enough for the updater movie to load, so it might not always work.

There was someone who posted the code that is in the autoupdater swf file on the OSFlash mailing list a few months back - as I recall, it creates a giant textfield on the _root and then loads the updater over that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could try setting a timeout that attaches or swaps the depth of your logo to <code>_root.getNextHigestDepth()</code>, but it would have to wait long enough for the updater movie to load, so it might not always work.</p>
<p>There was someone who posted the code that is in the autoupdater swf file on the OSFlash mailing list a few months back - as I recall, it creates a giant textfield on the _root and then loads the updater over that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4255</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there, I just got flash object implimented with the express install enabled and all is working fine. Thanks a ton for the great flash detector, it works like a charm! My only question is: Is it possible to load a movie clip into a depth higher than that of the express install movie, not to replace or cover it, but to add the logo of the webpage i'm working on just to the left of it. I'm using flash object on a full page flash movie and right now the entire screen is the standard express install gray with the express install dialogue in the center. It doesnt look very user friendly or welcoming in my opinion. I've tried modifying the class to load a movie clip into a container clip in a depth higher than the expressInstallHolder (while setting it to a depth of 1 vs. 10000000) but it somehow is always at a depth higher than my clip no matter what i do.

A code example would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, I just got flash object implimented with the express install enabled and all is working fine. Thanks a ton for the great flash detector, it works like a charm! My only question is: Is it possible to load a movie clip into a depth higher than that of the express install movie, not to replace or cover it, but to add the logo of the webpage i&#8217;m working on just to the left of it. I&#8217;m using flash object on a full page flash movie and right now the entire screen is the standard express install gray with the express install dialogue in the center. It doesnt look very user friendly or welcoming in my opinion. I&#8217;ve tried modifying the class to load a movie clip into a container clip in a depth higher than the expressInstallHolder (while setting it to a depth of 1 vs. 10000000) but it somehow is always at a depth higher than my clip no matter what i do.</p>
<p>A code example would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Huseyin Elibol</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4250</link>
		<dc:creator>Huseyin Elibol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your kindness Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your kindness Tim.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4245</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you have to account for people who reach your page directly - if they skip the ExpressInstall page, they won't get the fancy upgrade at all. Normally I will only put ExpressInstall code in one movie on the page, and let the others fail detection and show the alternate content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you have to account for people who reach your page directly - if they skip the ExpressInstall page, they won&#8217;t get the fancy upgrade at all. Normally I will only put ExpressInstall code in one movie on the page, and let the others fail detection and show the alternate content.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4244</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a hundred ways to get around this like dropping a preloader on frame two of the detection movie and loading in your content after detection and express. I only did it on the site I linked because it is a flash / html hybrid with more than one seperate flash file, putting express install into each of these was not an option. Can I ask what you would have done in that situation?

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a hundred ways to get around this like dropping a preloader on frame two of the detection movie and loading in your content after detection and express. I only did it on the site I linked because it is a flash / html hybrid with more than one seperate flash file, putting express install into each of these was not an option. Can I ask what you would have done in that situation?</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4243</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim, but I don't agree with your redirection method - I like having all the Flash content on one page. If you redirect from Flash, search engines won't follow those links and your content won't be indexed. I'd rather just have one main swf file that handles the ExpressInstall or loads my site if I don't need to upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim, but I don&#8217;t agree with your redirection method - I like having all the Flash content on one page. If you redirect from Flash, search engines won&#8217;t follow those links and your content won&#8217;t be indexed. I&#8217;d rather just have one main swf file that handles the ExpressInstall or loads my site if I don&#8217;t need to upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4242</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The method Geoff has developed is perfect, and, if you read the tutorials on the site, the suggestion I mentioned is simple and can be re-used with none of the fluff you are decribing about about repetitive no-business processes, embeding markup documents and and the like.

Using express install with the flash object requires making a 2 frame movie, generally you put the content on frame two and a single line of code that tells the movie to stop if express intall is invoked on frame one. My suggestion was this, make a dedicated movie for detection, make a dedicated movie for your content. on frame one of the detection movie you have the stop action required if express install starts, on frame 2 you have a stop action so the movie does not loop and a get url command that sends people to a page with the content flash on it. i.e. getURL("blah.html"); therfore, the only change you have to make when you do a site, is teh five seconds required to change this url. I assume you could use a naming convention for all your sites so that you nver have to change the url at all though...

Simple. I just did this on a site launched today to test it out for myself. ( http://www.grandcenter.org/firstnight/ )

I would also suggest that you should take the flash object for what it is, a wonderfull DONATION made on someone else's free time, and a FRAMEWORK not a panacea or something you deserve. You seem to be beratting Geoff's work a little, and he has no reason but good will to work on this in the first place. If it truly wont work for you, develop your own method.

In that line of thoughr, Geoff, thanks a ton, I use this for all the flash I do now, couldnt be easier...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The method Geoff has developed is perfect, and, if you read the tutorials on the site, the suggestion I mentioned is simple and can be re-used with none of the fluff you are decribing about about repetitive no-business processes, embeding markup documents and and the like.</p>
<p>Using express install with the flash object requires making a 2 frame movie, generally you put the content on frame two and a single line of code that tells the movie to stop if express intall is invoked on frame one. My suggestion was this, make a dedicated movie for detection, make a dedicated movie for your content. on frame one of the detection movie you have the stop action required if express install starts, on frame 2 you have a stop action so the movie does not loop and a get url command that sends people to a page with the content flash on it. i.e. getURL(&#8221;blah.html&#8221;); therfore, the only change you have to make when you do a site, is teh five seconds required to change this url. I assume you could use a naming convention for all your sites so that you nver have to change the url at all though&#8230;</p>
<p>Simple. I just did this on a site launched today to test it out for myself. ( <a href="http://www.grandcenter.org/firstnight/" rel="nofollow">http://www.grandcenter.org/firstnight/</a> )</p>
<p>I would also suggest that you should take the flash object for what it is, a wonderfull DONATION made on someone else&#8217;s free time, and a FRAMEWORK not a panacea or something you deserve. You seem to be beratting Geoff&#8217;s work a little, and he has no reason but good will to work on this in the first place. If it truly wont work for you, develop your own method.</p>
<p>In that line of thoughr, Geoff, thanks a ton, I use this for all the flash I do now, couldnt be easier&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Huseyin Elibol</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4238</link>
		<dc:creator>Huseyin Elibol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

I am interested in your suggestion, however the information you've provided isn't detailed enough for me to properly grasp the design you have in mind. What other purpose does the swf serve besides redirecting, detection/ express install? Why does it redirect on frame 2, or, what is the purpose of the first frame? What do the embeding markup documents do, and how are they integrated with the current state of the FlashObjects Express Install implementation?

There are many ways to solve the seperation of detection from the content, and so, the motive of my argument is to optimize and decouple FO so that it is automated to handle repetitive, non-business related functionality; which can effectively be accomplished by expanding on Geoffs work. This will not only allow programmers to eliminate redundancy, but it will also streamline the process, allowing users of the tool such as Jason to better understand and implement optimal detection, and, in the process, saving the time of both himself, and Geoff from having to support developers as frequently as he does. The time he spends on support may have been better spent reprogramming the tool in order to eliminate confusion by automating non-business related processes.

I am dedicated to my opinion, and it is due to substantial reasoning. If the express install implementation, player version detection, and swf embedding can be streamlined to eliminate non-business processes, Flash Objects express install feature would be prone to a larger number of developers. The result would be quicker propogation of new Flash player versions, and an overall advancement in internet technology. Furthermore, the resulting pattern can be classified as complementary: Flash developers would compile projects in newer versions sooner then later because of the increase in propogation speed, and the increase in propogation speed would result from developers compiling projects in newer versions sooner then later. Though the latter statement is a consequence of the express installer itself; its potential would be increased from a streamlined express installer implementation, and even more so in conjuction with Flash Object.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>I am interested in your suggestion, however the information you&#8217;ve provided isn&#8217;t detailed enough for me to properly grasp the design you have in mind. What other purpose does the swf serve besides redirecting, detection/ express install? Why does it redirect on frame 2, or, what is the purpose of the first frame? What do the embeding markup documents do, and how are they integrated with the current state of the FlashObjects Express Install implementation?</p>
<p>There are many ways to solve the seperation of detection from the content, and so, the motive of my argument is to optimize and decouple FO so that it is automated to handle repetitive, non-business related functionality; which can effectively be accomplished by expanding on Geoffs work. This will not only allow programmers to eliminate redundancy, but it will also streamline the process, allowing users of the tool such as Jason to better understand and implement optimal detection, and, in the process, saving the time of both himself, and Geoff from having to support developers as frequently as he does. The time he spends on support may have been better spent reprogramming the tool in order to eliminate confusion by automating non-business related processes.</p>
<p>I am dedicated to my opinion, and it is due to substantial reasoning. If the express install implementation, player version detection, and swf embedding can be streamlined to eliminate non-business processes, Flash Objects express install feature would be prone to a larger number of developers. The result would be quicker propogation of new Flash player versions, and an overall advancement in internet technology. Furthermore, the resulting pattern can be classified as complementary: Flash developers would compile projects in newer versions sooner then later because of the increase in propogation speed, and the increase in propogation speed would result from developers compiling projects in newer versions sooner then later. Though the latter statement is a consequence of the express installer itself; its potential would be increased from a streamlined express installer implementation, and even more so in conjuction with Flash Object.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4236</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huseyin, just a thought, why don't you just put a get url command on frame two of a flash file with just the flash object, that does exactly what your saying you want, no? That way you can redirect to any page you want, and seperate the detection from the content file...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huseyin, just a thought, why don&#8217;t you just put a get url command on frame two of a flash file with just the flash object, that does exactly what your saying you want, no? That way you can redirect to any page you want, and seperate the detection from the content file&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4235</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff:

Ok I see your .as file my questions (revised) is how do you place the script somewhere in your Flash class path. What does this mean and how do I do it. If you don't mind responding.

If I get this it will be huge!

Thanks again!

Jason A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff:</p>
<p>Ok I see your .as file my questions (revised) is how do you place the script somewhere in your Flash class path. What does this mean and how do I do it. If you don&#8217;t mind responding.</p>
<p>If I get this it will be huge!</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Jason A.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4234</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff:

Thanks for you quick response. Thank God there are people out there like yourself who are able to help and support wanna be web programmers like myself.

Anyway, I'm trying to use your suggestions for the express install method you have discussed. In your writing "First, add Express Install support to each of the swf files that may require an upgrade" What is involved with this, I have downloaded the Flash Detiction kit from Macromedia and in it contains the Express Installation folder. In other words how do you have that little .swf file load into your div tag to have the users download the correct version. Am I making sense. The whole flash detection kit in it's entirety is  exhausting to say the least.

Any way you could point me in the right direction? To recap, I just want to have my detection method reflect everything you have written my only issue... i think is to try and impliment the express installation into my FLA or swf files.

Thanks again

Jason a.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff:</p>
<p>Thanks for you quick response. Thank God there are people out there like yourself who are able to help and support wanna be web programmers like myself.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m trying to use your suggestions for the express install method you have discussed. In your writing &#8220;First, add Express Install support to each of the swf files that may require an upgrade&#8221; What is involved with this, I have downloaded the Flash Detiction kit from Macromedia and in it contains the Express Installation folder. In other words how do you have that little .swf file load into your div tag to have the users download the correct version. Am I making sense. The whole flash detection kit in it&#8217;s entirety is  exhausting to say the least.</p>
<p>Any way you could point me in the right direction? To recap, I just want to have my detection method reflect everything you have written my only issue&#8230; i think is to try and impliment the express installation into my FLA or swf files.</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
<p>Jason a.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/08/13/using-flash-player-express-install-with-flashobject/#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some larger Flash projects developers will set their AS2 publish settings so the classes are exported after the first frame. While my suggested use of the ExpressInstall.as class included with FlashObject is to place on the first frame a check to see if the upgrade is needed, and if not, to proceed with showing the movie.

If you have a smaller or medium-sized file where your classes can be preloaded comfortably before your swf content, you won't have a problem. If you do have many classes and need to preload them, then you should consider either using Carlos' include script method or keep your preloader code (And anything else before the ExpressInstall.init() call) compatible with Flash 6 and do the check after your classes have preloaded but before your movie initializes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some larger Flash projects developers will set their AS2 publish settings so the classes are exported after the first frame. While my suggested use of the ExpressInstall.as class included with FlashObject is to place on the first frame a check to see if the upgrade is needed, and if not, to proceed with showing the movie.</p>
<p>If you have a smaller or medium-sized file where your classes can be preloaded comfortably before your swf content, you won&#8217;t have a problem. If you do have many classes and need to preload them, then you should consider either using Carlos&#8217; include script method or keep your preloader code (And anything else before the ExpressInstall.init() call) compatible with Flash 6 and do the check after your classes have preloaded but before your movie initializes.</p>
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